Taking On The Facebook Cheats: Compers vs Chompers!

Posted on: February 3rd, 2012 by Jason 19 Comments

Despite the fact that Facebook states that users are only allowed one account it’s a well known fact in comping circles that some people have a couple. One for personal and private use and one to specifically for competitions. However, some people use multiple accounts just for comping and it’s not gone unnoticed.

In fact it’s coined a new comping term: chompers!

Take a comper who is a cheat and you get a chomper! Even more interesting is that the days of the chomper may well be numbered as people start to highlight multiple account holders to promoters.

An example of this can be found on the Market Royale page. They chose a winner who was subsequently outed as someone who allegedly has over 100 profiles. After investigation by Market Royale, thanks to information passed to them by observent compers, they opted to select another winner.

This isn’t the only case that’s cropped up recently. In recent months we’ve heard stories of people creating fake accounts to try and claim prizes that have been announced on promoter’s Walls. The depths that some people wil plumb to steal a win is quite incredible – see Lettuce Scarves for another example.

The good news is that there’s definitely a tide of change where people are now starting to voice their concerns to promoters – and this often results in a positive outcome.

However, there are a couple of issues that concern us!

Firstly, outing a cheat is something you must do so sensibly! It must be done in a controlled manner with valid information. You can’t just make wild accusations about someone – just in case you’re wrong! So be careful.

If you spot a problem with a competition, then get your facts together! Take screen shots as information does get deleted. If you’re unsure about anything don’t go public, but instead contact a promoter privately.

It’s great to see compers acting to protect their hobby… just be careful how you do it!

Mind you, if promoters ran their Facebook competitions as laid out by FB guidelines then a number of these issues wouldn’t arise. In fact, if Facebook got it’s act together and forced brands to run competitions within their guidelines then that would help too.

But there’s a bigger Facebook issue here….

The big issue is how the hell does Facebook allow someone to create (or get hold of and use) multiple accounts? Their terms and conditions specifically state that a person is allowed one account and we expect that they must monitor login/logout and IP activity.

Now there must be “average household usage” when it comes to Facebook accounts and families – but surely Facebook has some way to identify someone creating multiple accounts? In fact, we think that this must be a fundamental element of their security set up.

In comping terms, a multiple account holder is a pain – but on a larger scale it’s quite worrying to think that it must be quite easy to set up multiple accounts and identites on the world’s largest social network. Even more worrying is that telling Facebook about it is pretty difficult too.

The biggest problem with Facebook is that it’s a faceless website with one of the worst “contact us” systems ever created. Yes, there’s a massive help centre but it will take you round and round in circles more times than a ride on a Merry Go Round.

For example, some of our users may have details of a multiple account holder (advice needed – cheating on Facebook), but have no idea how to inform Facebook or point out to them that this problem exists.

At the moment Facebook itself is the biggest barrier to really starting to deal with the cheats.

Don’t Have Nightmares!

There will always be issues surrounding possible cheating in competitions, whether it’s multiple accounts, vote influencing or automated entry services. If compers and sites like Loquax don’t stand up and start helping promoters understand the problems then nothing changes!

Fortunately these things don’t effect every promotion and competition so – as they say on Crimewatch – don’t have nightmares.

Well, that’s unless you’re a chomper!

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  • hazelangell

    I think when people hear about these kinds of things it leaves them feeling disheartened and often people say “I might as well just quit comping with all the cheats around” – No, No, No, that is the last thing you should be thinking of doing, don’t stop as that will leave the chompers with more goodies! Instead encourage promoters (as Jason has said on many, many occasions) to run their competitions in a way that makes it difficult for chompers to manipulate the entry systems.

  • tractor girl

    I would just like to say a very well done to all those compers out there who have taken the time to investigate this. You are a clever lot!
    ..but as for the term “chompers”? It just makes me think about those Chomp chocolate bars!…….mmmmmmm I’m hungry now! ๐Ÿ™‚

  • fluffywhite

    Brilliant blog post. Chompers need to be scared. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • aliali

    Firstly a huge thank you to those that have ‘outed’ the chompers, and massive respect and admiration to the companies like Market Royale, that have listened, investigated and acted on observant Loquats voices.

    I hope none of the chompers are Loquats, and if they are IMHO should be banned from Loquax, and named so that unsuspecting compers can delete them from their Facebook friends list.

    Facebook, you need to clean up your act big time, and ensure that companies, facebook users, and compers alike, adhere to your rules.

  • NanaVal

    Brilliant! It’s good to hear that the people who cheat will not be able to get away with it so easily. Facebook should follow it’s own rules and behave responsibly. Well done everybody who’s set the ball rolling. Long may it roll, and take the cheats with it! Leave the comping to people who play fairly.
    Great blog post Jason!

  • hks

    Loving the name chomper (thanks fullywhite) and with the fantastic work of peeps like hazelangell hopefully the cheats will be outed. I still think it’s mad for anyone to have so may fake ID’s, I don’t have time for just me to enter the comps let alone 99 other me’s.

  • keriku

    Unbelievable how sad some folk are-if they are cheating to this extent for small FB prizes what on earth are they doing outwith FB? The mind boggles!

  • libra100

    Chompers is a great name for the cheats.

    Brilliant detective work by the loquats who discovered the multiple user names and profiles. It must have taken a lot of time and effort to uncover what was going on.

    Hope karma rewards them.

  • missy2012

    Great blog Jason on the growing f/b chomper problem. Tried to find my post in forums regarding Market Royale and their recent chomper but couldn’t find it :/ would be interested to see feedback on it ๐Ÿ™‚

  • part-time comper

    Unfortunately some people also use multiple email addresses or enter for the dogs brothers, sisters, uncles neighbours.

  • @missy2012 – your thread is where you left it http://forums.loquax.co.uk/showthread.php?t=371833 ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • missy2012

    Lol ahahaha oops soory and thankyou ;P

  • babs 39

    I’m so old fashioned I just wish that the majority of competitions would be postal like the old days. I can hardly believe that some people would have 100 facebook accounts!
    How desperate must some people be to win prizes. If it was for a million pounds I could understand it but this facebook
    is getting well out of hand.

  • fhging

    The multiple accounts problem is so bad but when that problem is dealt with the cheats evolve – wonder how they make sure when they announce the winner that the rightful onwer contacts them? You can cross check to an extent on FB but some people actually bother to change their names to the winners’. Greed indeed.

  • BEESHOOTER

    Take alook at Direct Holidays UK now and it will put you off comping for life!!!

  • jko316

    but what about people who all live together and use the same ip adress,there are 5 people in my house that use facebook and if a friend comes over sometimes they go on my computer too. i dont want to be said to be cheatin just because we are on on the same ip adress. there has to be a different way to check if they are fake accounts to, or its not fair to bigger households .

  • @jko316 – we do mention ‘there must be โ€œaverage household usageโ€ when it comes to Facebook accounts and families’.

    FB must take that into account – but equally they must be able to detect someone creating loads of accounts. That’s the point.

  • kittykat69er

    so how do u report sum1 who does this,as sum1 i have on my facebook wins almost everyday,she even has a list of what she has won…she had a comment the other day from another comper saying she’s using more acoounts and she said she was changing over her f.b and didnt realise it was classed as cheatin,but i think she lied and does this quite regular.x and good luck to all the ppl like me who stick to the rules..even though id love to win x

  • angelataz

    Their will always be those who abuse the system, after entering one comp my news feed was full of their posts so much so I had to unfollow them.

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